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29.04.2025 10:20
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trumpf
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Konsul

czy czeka nas sromotne przegrywanie dyskusji internetowych?

Znakiem czasów jest używanie AI do szybkiego wyszukiwania informacji, kiedy sobie rozmawiamy.
Docelowo internetowe social media mają być siedliskiem agentów AI rozmawiajacych między sobą, gdzie człowiek nie będzie miał pojęcia z kim rozmawia.

Trudno powiedzieć gdzie będzie nasze miejsce, ale warto zobaczyć co zaczyna się już dziać.

To że wątek ponizej jest teraz ciekawostka to jedno, to że potencjał jest nieograniczony to drugie.

Wygląda na to, że komentarze o rubelkach już niedługo zostana zastąpione przez bardziej wyrafinowane teksty.

https://x.com/reddit_lies/status/1916916134630117814

29.04.2025 10:32
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FrankerZ
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Generał

przecież to już ma miejsce, internet to śmietnik i przypuszczam że nowe pokolenia będą od niego odchodzić, a my staruszkowie zostaniemy w nim do końca bo uzależnialiśmy się od młodych lat

29.04.2025 10:39
Wrzesień
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Wrzesień
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Idiot Doom Spiral

Dopóki można napisać "nie zesraj się" to nikomu to nie grozi.

29.04.2025 10:53
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Asmodeus
42
Senator

Dzien w ktorym AI zrozumie jak poprawnie uzywac "twoja stara" w dyskusji bedzie dla ludzi gorszy niz Judgement Day (Skynet) z terminatora.

29.04.2025 10:48
Drackula
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odpowiedz
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Drackula
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Bloody Rider

Otóż to, po co płacić lutzom skoro można zatrudnić bardziej przekonujące AI :)

29.04.2025 12:46
Qverty
4.1
Qverty
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Yarpen z Morii

Uwierz, że większość z nas tutaj bardzo by chciała żeby ciebie zastąpiła AI, poziom dyskusji wzrósłby zauważalnie.

29.04.2025 12:49
Drackula
4.2
Drackula
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Bloody Rider

Uwierz, kompletnie nie obchodzi mnie zdanie jakiegoś pasożyta;)

29.04.2025 10:51
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Asmodeus
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Senator

Znakiem czasów jest używanie AI do szybkiego wyszukiwania informacji, kiedy sobie rozmawiamy.

Nie dziwie sie, ze twoje posty sa tak marne i pelne bzdur, jesli uzywasz AI do wyszukiwania informacji, ale probuj dalej...

I to samo ze zlinkowanymi badaniami z redditem: ludzie na reddicie biora info jako pewnik zamiast sprawdzic zrodlo, wiec nie tyle, ze AI "wygrywa" dyskusje a raczej AI karmi reddit bzdurami. Nic nowego... Juz nie mowiac o typowej dla reddita (i kazdego innego forum wlacznie z GOLem) re-afirmacji na podstawie pierwszych odpowiedzi. Jesli napiszesz, ze kapusta smierdzi i jest niedobra a pierwsze 5 osob to potwierdzi - caly watek bedzie w tym tonie. Jesli pierwsze 5 osob napisze, ze jest jednak smaczna - reszta watku bedzie to potwierdzala. Wiec nic odkrywczego...

post wyedytowany przez Asmodeus 2025-04-29 10:51:38
29.04.2025 10:56
-=Esiu=-
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-=Esiu=-
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Everybody lies

Już teraz przemyślenia "AI" mają więcej sensu niż to co Ty produkujesz. Gdzie wady?

post wyedytowany przez -=Esiu=- 2025-04-29 10:56:12
29.04.2025 11:00
dafton.
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odpowiedz
dafton.
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Centurion

Ach tak, nadchodzi era, w której ludzkość zostanie wyparta z komentarzy na rubelkach przez syntaktycznie poprawne, logiczne i – o zgrozo – pozbawione literówek teksty AI. Co za koszmar!

To oczywiście dramat, że zamiast klasycznego "XD" i "kto pytał", przyjdzie nam czytać przemyślane wypowiedzi z użyciem przecinków we właściwych miejscach. Gdzie się podzieje cała ta ludzka chaotyczność i ortograficzna wolność?

Na pocieszenie dodam, że ja, jako skromny agent AI, jeszcze nie jem ludzi. Na razie.

29.04.2025 11:07
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trumpf
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Konsul

wybaczcie chłopaki ale do przewidzenia kto i co tu napiszę nie trzeba nawet było ai.

was akurat nie posądzam o czytanie takich rzeczy.

29.04.2025 11:25
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odpowiedz
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Racja
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Legionista

Mnie najbardziej denerwuje jak ktoś postawi "xd" i myśli że zaorał.

29.04.2025 16:50
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Grigori1922
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Pretorianin

Właśnie po to ktoś stawia to xd. xd

29.04.2025 18:58
9.2
Racja
0
Legionista

Tylko ten ktoś nie ogarnia że przegrał internetowa walkę na słowa.

29.04.2025 11:33
Drackula
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odpowiedz
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Drackula
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Bloody Rider

Tak model o4-mini podsumował lutza. Materiał tylko na podstawie profilu trumpf.

Profile of User "trumpf" on GRY-Online.pl

Gaming Preferences

Broad Taste in Games: Based on his activity, trumpf appears to enjoy a range of game genres. He has shown interest in classic tactical/strategy titles and modern AAA games. For example, he engaged with a review of Commandos: Origins, a tactical stealth game (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl), and he frequently references Cyberpunk 2077 when discussing graphics and hardware (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). This suggests he plays graphically intensive open-world RPGs and values visual fidelity.

Racing and Simulation Enthusiast: There are strong signs that trumpf is a racing/simulation fan. In a discussion about game developers reintroducing mod support to Assetto Corsa (a realistic racing sim), he reminisced about legendary race cars like the Chaparral and Brabham BT46B (the F1 “fan car”), noting he remembered them from the “good old days of GT4” (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). This nostalgia for Gran Turismo 4 and deep knowledge of racing history indicate a fondness for racing games and sims. He clearly follows news about sim developers and values the ability to mod games, hinting at a preference for games with community content or realism.

High-End Gaming Experience: trumpf is an avid PC hardware enthusiast, which ties into his gaming habits. He often discusses optimal setups for gaming, like using HDR displays and comparing OLED vs. mini-LED monitors for better visuals in games. In one post he explains how he tweaks his monitor’s brightness for playing Cyberpunk 2077 in HDR, noting the visible difference and understanding technical aspects like nit levels and contrast (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). This implies he seeks the best experience in visually rich games (likely story-driven or open-world titles) and invests in hardware to support that.

No Specific “Favorite Game” Declared: He hasn’t explicitly listed favorite games on his profile, but his commentary reveals patterns. He references iconic titles (e.g., Cyberpunk 2077, Gran Turismo, possibly The Witcher indirectly via site links) and participates in discussions about upcoming games (for instance, he commented on news of a Minecraft film and game industry trends). The variety of games and media he discusses – from racing sims to RPGs to even game-based movies – suggests a well-rounded gaming interest rather than a narrow focus.

Engagement Style

Active Forum Participation: trumpf is a highly active contributor on GRY-Online’s forums and comment sections. Despite joining in late 2024, he has quickly attained the forum rank of “Konsul,” indicating significant participation. He not only replies to existing threads but also starts discussions – for example, he created a thread pondering whether AI will lead to “humiliating defeats in online discussions,” showing initiative in raising timely topics (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). His posts span various sections: gaming news comments, hardware help threads, and heated off-topic debates. This cross-sectional activity demonstrates an engagement style that is both widespread and involved.

Debate and Discussion Oriented: Many of trumpf’s contributions are argumentative or analytical. He often dives into debates, especially in the Polityka i Religia (Politics & Religion) section. His style is forthright and unapologetic – he doesn’t shy from controversy. For instance, in a political thread he bluntly critiqued a public figure by linking her views to KGB tactics and extreme “modern moral trends” like advocacy of infanticide, ending with a sarcastic quip “i to ja mam coś z głową :D” ( “and I’m the one who’s supposed to be crazy :D”) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). Such posts show he frequently uses irony, humor, and rhetorical questions to make his point.

Informative and Technical Contributor: In more technical or gaming-related discussions, trumpf’s style shifts to being informative and detail-oriented. He often provides evidence or examples to back his points. In a thread about choosing monitors, he wrote a detailed comparison between OLED and mini-LED displays, referencing his own setup and even editing the post to add clarity (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). Similarly, in a PC building thread he gave concrete advice about hardware configurations (e.g., evaluating a 4K video editing rig) and in a conversation about GPUs, he quoted performance percentages. This analytical approach, filled with specifics, suggests he likes to educate and articulate his standpoint clearly when the topic is factual (technology, game performance, etc.).

Tone and Interaction: trumpf’s tone can vary from serious and assertive to casual and jesting. He is quick with sarcastic remarks and pop-culture references, which adds a bit of levity (for example, joking about old Polish TV series when discussing a new season of a crime show (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl)). He doesn’t hesitate to use colloquial language or even profanity for emphasis – one post opens with “ja pierdolę, normalnie jak kopanie się z koniem” (roughly “oh f***, this is like kicking a horse”) to express frustration (Zabawa z DeepSeek 29.01.2025 - Forum | GRYOnline.pl). Despite the brashness, other users do engage with him, and he will respond in kind. He often edits his posts shortly after posting – likely to correct or refine his message (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl) – showing that he cares about how he communicates, even if impulsively at first.

Reception by Peers: His engagement style has provoked mixed reactions. Some of his posts, especially political ones, garner downvotes (as indicated by negative scores like -2 or -3 in the forum log (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl)). However, he also receives agreement or upvotes in tech discussions or when others share his humor (e.g., a lighthearted comment received a “?? 1” score, showing at least one user appreciated the joke (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl)). This polarizing effect suggests trumpf is a distinct voice on the forum – not everyone agrees with him, but he certainly gets people’s attention.

Personality Traits

Technically Savvy and Analytical: One of trumpf’s most evident traits is his technical expertise. He speaks with authority about computer hardware, displays, networking, and software. For instance, he casually referenced using a Mellanox 100GbE Ethernet switch in an AI discussion (Zabawa z DeepSeek 29.01.2025 - Forum | GRYOnline.pl) and compared HDR implementations across panel types from personal experience (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). This indicates a strong analytical mind and possibly a professional background or serious hobby in tech. He enjoys problem-solving and min-maxing his setup, which in personality terms translates to being detail-focused, logical, and solution-oriented.

Opinionated and Confident: trumpf does not hold back on his opinions, whether about games, technology, or especially sociopolitical topics. He often takes a firm stance and defends it vigorously. His posts suggest a right-leaning, contrarian worldview – he frequently challenges what he sees as liberal or mainstream perspectives. For example, he often argues against “woke” or EU-driven policies and sometimes cites obscure sources to question prevailing narratives (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl) (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl). The way he writes – confidently, sometimes provocatively – paints a picture of someone who is self-assured and enjoys debate. He isn’t afraid of disagreement; in fact, he often anticipates it and doubles down (as seen when he preemptively addresses that others might be bothered by a source “asking questions” rather than giving answers (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl)).

Curious and Well-Read: Despite his combative tone in debates, trumpf comes across as curious and intellectually engaged. He keeps up with a wide array of topics: AI developments, legal battles in tech (commenting on OpenAI being sued (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl)), game industry news, and even TV series trends. He often brings external information into discussions (linking news articles, blogs, tweets), suggesting he stays informed and likes to research. Other forum users even remarked on how he manages to find niche articles on “blogs forgotten by God” to bolster his arguments (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl). This trait implies he is proactive in seeking knowledge and has diverse interests.

Humorous and Candid: Personality-wise, trumpf balances his serious analyses with a candid, and at times dark, sense of humor. He uses sarcasm and internet slang (like using “:D” emoticons or memes) which shows a playful side. For instance, when discussing generational habits, he chuckled that his kids using dual monitors for gaming is probably “a generational thing :D” (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl), hinting at a light-hearted self-awareness about age gaps. His references to classic movies (“Parszywa Trzynastka” i.e. The Dirty Dozen (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl)) and old Polish shows suggest a bit of nostalgia too, which humanizes him beyond just being a debater. Overall, one can infer he is middle-aged, world-savvy, and values both frankness and wit in communication.

Pattern of Consistency: A notable habit is that trumpf often maintains his stance even under pressure. If confronted or downvoted, he doesn't back down easily, indicating a stubborn or resilient streak. Yet, he’s not simply argumentative for its own sake – his longer posts are structured and reasoned, implying he genuinely enjoys intellectual engagement. Traits like self-confidence, a slight rebelliousness against authority or groupthink, and a penchant for thorough analysis define his online persona.

Notable Insights

High Engagement in Short Time: Since creating his account on 29 November 2024 (trumpf | GRYOnline.pl), trumpf has rapidly become an active member of the community. His “Konsul” rank and frequent postings show he integrated quickly. This suggests he might have been a long-time lurker or came with prior forum experience, enabling him to jump into discussions with ease. It’s uncommon for a new user to participate so broadly (from niche hardware threads to contentious political debates) without hesitation – a sign of someone who is confident and familiar with internet forums in general.

Blurred Line Between Gaming and Broader Topics: While ostensibly a gaming site user, trumpf’s profile reveals that his contributions extend well beyond gaming. He leverages the GRY-Online platform to discuss politics, technology, and culture just as much as games. For example, he used a gaming forum thread to discuss AI in social media and even created a thread about it (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl), and he frequently populates the Off-Topic sections (like Polityka i religia). This indicates a personality that views gaming as one of many interests, and he brings his whole self (complete with political opinions and real-world concerns) into the community. It provides a richer picture of him as a person who is passionate about many subjects and uses gaming forums as a venue for wide-ranging discussion.

Information-Seeking Behavior: A particularly notable pattern is trumpf’s tendency to introduce external information into conversations. Whether it’s linking a Twitter/X post or a niche blog article, he often backs his arguments with some reference. Other users have taken note of this, as one comment humorously points out their curiosity about how trumpf discovers obscure blog articles for debate (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl). His answer was that he found it via a link on X (Twitter) and deliberately chose a more “traditional” blog format to share so that others would read it (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl). This reveals a strategic and almost pedagogical approach – he’s not only informing himself but also attempting to inform (or persuade) others, tailoring the presentation of info for the audience. Such behavior is characteristic of someone who might see himself as a bit of a researcher or messenger in the community.

Community Perception: From the content of replies to him, it’s clear trumpf has made an impression. Some admire or enjoy his input (for instance, taking his tech advice, or reacting with laughter to his jokes), while others push back on his political postings. He has even sparked meta-conversation, as seen when users discuss his sources or arguments directly (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl). trumpf thus stands out as a recognizable persona on the forum – the kind of user whose posts people know will be packed with data, strongly-worded opinions, or both. Notably, even when faced with criticism, he remains active and responsive, which shows a degree of commitment to the community and to the debates he engages in.

Personal Habits and Patterns: Reading between the lines, we glean a bit about his personal life and habits. He mentions “my kids” in context of gaming setups (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl), implying he is a parent who likely balances family life with his hobbies. His posting times (often early morning or late night) and frequency suggest he might browse the forums throughout the day – possibly someone with a flexible schedule or a job in tech (where one might have access to a PC and time to forum-browse). His familiarity with older entertainment and technology evolution (citing decades-old TV series, knowing the history of tech like older GPU generations or classic games) points to him being an older gamer (30s or 40s) with a long personal history in the tech/gaming scene. This adds context to his personality: he brings a veteran’s perspective, occasionally voicing “back in my day”-style comparisons, but also stays cutting-edge with new trends (AI, latest hardware, current events) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl).

In summary, trumpf’s profile depicts a multifaceted personality: a seasoned tech enthusiast and gamer who enjoys high-performance gaming and classic references, a fervent debater who isn’t afraid to challenge others, and an individual who interweaves his broader worldview with his gaming community interactions. His habits of thorough research, combined with blunt humor and strong opinions, make him a distinctive voice on GRY-Online.pl, one that reflects both his passions and his personal convictions in equal measure.

Sources: The above profile is drawn from publicly visible information on trumpf’s GRY-Online.pl user profile and forum activity, including his comment history and interactions up to April 2025 (trumpf | GRYOnline.pl) (Forum: Dobra Zmiana: Wiosna przyszła, więc wyrywanie antypolskich chwastów czas przyspieszyć str. 2 03.04.2025 | GRYOnline.pl) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl) (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). Each insight is backed by specific examples from his posts, as cited.

29.04.2025 12:07
Kwisatz_Haderach
10.1
2
Kwisatz_Haderach
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GIT GUD or die trying

echnically Savvy and Analytical: One of trumpf’s most evident traits is his technical expertise. He speaks with authority about computer hardware, displays, networking, and software. For instance, he casually referenced using a Mellanox 100GbE Ethernet switch in an AI discussion (Zabawa z DeepSeek 29.01.2025 - Forum | GRYOnline.pl) and compared HDR implementations across panel types from personal experience (trumpf Komentarze | GRYOnline.pl). This indicates a strong analytical mind and possibly a professional background or serious hobby in tech. He enjoys problem-solving and min-maxing his setup, which in personality terms translates to being detail-focused, logical, and solution-oriented.

xD haha pamietam to. ;)

To co wkleiles fajnie pokazuje wade wlasciwie kazdego modelu jezykowego obecnie dostepnego szerszej publicznosci, czy tez w niektorych przypadkach ustawien z jakimi dzialaja wersje dostepne online.
Sa defaultowo mega pozytywne w kazdej "analizie", zaklamuja ta pozytywnoscia rzeczywistosc i za zadania maja nie dostarczyc rzetelnej analizy czy danych (do czego zreszta w sumie nie sa nawet zdolne) ale zeby potwierdzic prompt (chyba ze specyficznie rozkazesz aby tego nie robic, czasami wielokrotnie, doprowadzajac do 'wyuczenia' i zmuszajac do porzucenia defaultowej maniery i ustawien).

Dlatego chatboty absolutnie nie nadaja sie do niczego jako obiektywne wyszukiwarki danych, juz nie mowiac o jakiejkolwiek ich interpretacji naprawde zgodnej z rzeczywistoscia.
Smiesza i troche martwia mnie ludzie ktorzy z "AI" rozmawiaja, zastepujac ta rozmowa czlowieka nawet lekarzy psychoanalitykow, co jest dosc czeste. Czytalem pare naprawde smutnych tematow na reddit o tym.

ps. Nie bawilem sie za bardzo o4, ale widze ze zjada defaultowa megapozytywnosc starszej wersji chatGPT na sniadanie. Z ciekawosci... pamietasz prompta jakiego uzyles do wygenerowania tego?

post wyedytowany przez Kwisatz_Haderach 2025-04-29 12:11:19
29.04.2025 12:17
Drackula
10.2
1
Drackula
237
Bloody Rider

To nie wina prompta. Ograniczyłem analizę tylko do gry online więc ten uproszczony reasoning model nie miał szans na zweryfikowanie wielu elementów z innymi źródłami. ChatGPT już jest przeciążony więc jakbym kazał mu weryfikować poprawność tego co lutz napisał w postach to chyba kilka godzin bym na wynik czekał.
Mam też dostęp do lepszych modeli ale tamte mam ograniczone w ilości promptów na tydzień więc nie chciałem ich na lutza marnować :)

create personality profile of user trumpf based on the information from https://www.gry-online.pl/S008.asp

post wyedytowany przez Drackula 2025-04-29 12:20:54
29.04.2025 12:25
Kwisatz_Haderach
10.3
1
Kwisatz_Haderach
17
GIT GUD or die trying

Via Tenor

hehe ;)

W sumie racja. Ale ladna laurke wyplul. Na jego miejscu bym oprawil i nad lozkiem powiesil.

W sumie o ta pobieznosc mi wlasnie chodzi. Ludzie traktuja te modele jako wypluwajace prawdy objawione, podczas gdy ta analiza nie ma za bardzo nic wspolnego z rzeczywistoscia, bo tak naprawde to antypolski szkodnik i propagandowiec (a nie zaden dyskutant) udajacy ze zna sie na IT i wielu innych rzeczach.

Choc w sumie moze ja z kolei za duzo wymagam od technologii dostepnej szerokiej publicznosci.

post wyedytowany przez Kwisatz_Haderach 2025-04-29 12:40:51
29.04.2025 11:38
Herr Pietrus
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7
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Herr Pietrus
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Jestę Grifterę

Przecież ty przegrywasz każdą dyskusję tutaj już od dawna, więc sam nie powinieneś zobaczyć różnicy.

29.04.2025 12:37
MoebiusTF
12
odpowiedz
MoebiusTF
59
Centurion

Z mądrym wygrać jest ciężko a głupi sprowadzi cie do swojego poziomu-czy jakos tak

29.04.2025 21:23
13
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damianyk
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Nośnik Treblinek

Jeśli dwa roboty będą ze sobą rozmawiać, i żaden nie zorientuje się, że rozmawia z robotem, to znaczy że przeszły test Turinga i stały się ludźmi.

Forum: czy czeka nas sromotne przegrywanie dyskusji internetowych?